COMNAVAIRLANT

  Commander Naval Air Force Atlantic Fleet

March 1974-May 1976

Last Updated:  July 23rd, 2022


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Gas Shortage





When we arrived in Norfolk 1n 1974, there were also long gas lines at gas stations.



COMNAVAIRLANT (aka CNAL, aka Airlant) is located at Naval Air Station Norfolk in the left center of the map.





We found a house we rented in Kempsville which was located about half way betewen NAS Norfolk and Virginia Beach.





I don't remember who Bosco stayed with while we were in England; probably my parents, possibly Mary's parents)





5305 Fairfield Blvd.
Kempsville

2000 sq. ft., 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, and a room over the garage




It was located on a very nice street with lots of trees.


Heather (almost 10) and Laura (then 9) went to a nice elementary school. Stacy (then 4) stayed at home with Mary and Bosco.





A7 Class Desk Officer    (March 1974-December 1974)

My first assignment at CNAL was as the A7 Class Desk Officer (Code 521B). Airlant consisted of various sections devoted to administration, aircraft training operations, supply (logistics), and engineering/maintenance.  The Code 50 section was headed by Rear Admiral Faulders.  The Code 52 section was responsible for aircraft engineering and maintenance, airborne weapons, and electronic warfare systems and was headed by a Captain who was an Aeronautical Engineering Duty Officer (AEDO). When I was there, Captain Bill Finneran was in charge of Code 52. My boss, Code 521, CDR Jim Anderson also an NAEDO, was in charge of aircraft engineering and maintenance for the type aircraft assigned to Airlant.  My job as Code 521B was to oversee the engineering and maintenance aspects of the A7s assigned to squadrons assigned at NAS Cecil Field in Jacksonville. Other officers were responsible for the A6, F4, E2 etc aircraft assigned on the east coast.  There was a similar arrangement at COMVAVAIRPAC on the west coast.  Most of the officers assigned to Code 521 jobs were also NAEDOs. It was unusual for me as a pilot (Line Officer/1310) to be assigned to this job but I think my experience as an Aircraft Division Officer in VA-15 and as Maintenance Officer in VA-82 was most likely the reason I found myself in 521B.  One of my best friends at AIRLANT, was the A6 Class Desk Officer, LCDR Chuck Boehmer. He was a Naval Flight Officer/A6 BN (Bombadier Navigator) with aircraft maintenance experience.

I was very fortunate to have a GS-13 civilian, Jim McConnel, assigned with me as part of 521B. Jim was a veteran of WW2 and was very experienced in the engineering and maintenance history of the A7. I could not have accomplished my job without the guidance and support of Jim McConnell.

The most important part of our job was to review the aircraft and engine change proposals that were produced by Commander Naval Air Systems Command (COMNAVAIRSYSCOM) that were intended to either accomplish upgrades or fix problems that were the result of accidents or incidents experienced by the operational A7 squadrons.  Jim usually reviewed the technical aspects of the changes. My job was to look at the changes and determine whether they were within the capability of the squadrons to accomplish onboard ship at sea or were going to be restricted to be done while based at Cecil Field.  My experience as a squadron maintenance officer was invaluable in this regard. Another factor that was a plus was that I was an experienced A7 pilot and was post maintenance flight test qualified.

Flight Time as the A7 Class Desk Officer

I did fly as much as possible while at Airlant. I was required to get my instrument card renewed which meant some TA-4 flights with VF-43 at Oceana or VA-45 at Cecil. I was also flew as much as I could with VA-174 and the fleet A7 squadrons. These flights were helpful in doing my job as the A7 Class Desk Officer. Flying with the A7 squadrons at Cecil helped me the understand better their problems and how well they thought we at Airlant were doing our job; or not.

 
March 1974- I flew three flights (5.9 hours); two instrument flights in the TA4 with VF-43 at Oceana and a flight in the YA-7H (a pre-production model of the two seat A7). Trips to LTV in Texas was an important part of my job. First, I got the chance to see the A7 manufacturing process.  And second, I was able to establish relationships with the engineers and maintenance experts at the company.

April 1974- I flew 7 flights (15.5 hours); first an instrument flight in a TA4 with VF-43; followed by a five day trip to Cecil.  I flew in a VA-45 TA4 from Norfolk to Cecil (with Possum), a second flight with Possum in a VA-45 TA4, an A7 NATOPS check flight with VA-174 (Jim Yeager),
an A7 systems flight with VA-105, an A7 live weapons flight with VA-37, and an TA4 instrument flight with VA-45 back to Norfolk.  These five days were fun and valuable.  I got back to flying the A7, spent time with old friends, and spent valuable time with maintenance folks from VA-174 and the fleet squadrons.

June 1974- I flew 4 flights (8.0 flight hours); Two TA4 flights with VA-465 at Cecil and two A7E flights with VA-105 at Cecil

July 1974- I flew 4 Flights (8.6 flight hours); Two TA4 flights with VA-45, one A7E flight with VA-66 and one A7E flight with VA-174. That flight was a formation                         flight with my wingman from VA-82; Jim Yeager. It was great spending some time and flying with "Rock" again !

August 1974-
I flew three flights (5.7 flight hours); Tow TA4 flights with VA-45 and one A7E flight with VA-105
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
September 1974- I flew six flights (10.6 flight hours); Two TA4 flights with VA-45 and four A7B/E flights (VA-105, VA-46, and two with VA-37)

October 1974-  I flew two four flights (8.3 flight hours);  Two TA4 flights and two A7B/E flights (VA-174 and VA-46)

November 1974-  I flew four flights (9.3 flight hours);, Two TA4 flights (one with VF-43 and one with VA-43) and two A7C flights with VA-82
                                                                                                               

                                                   A7 Class Desk Significant Issues                                                                                                                                                                                                      

My day usually started at about 7:30 with a cup of coffee, review the daily message board, and discussing anything I needed to with Jim McConnel . I needed to identify an A7 related issues that mighty come up in the 0900 daily meeting with Vice Admiral Michaelis, COMNAVAIRLANT or the Chief of Staff.  I was required to brief Jim Anderson who would brief Captain Finneran who would brief Rear Admiral Faulders before the meeting.  Ocassionally, I would attend the meeting if there was a significant A7 related issue.

Once we were finished with preparing for the morning meeting, Jim McConnell and I were free to address whatever engineering change proposal or maintenance procedure changes we were working on at the time. Some of these issues were fixes for accidents or incidents experienced in the fleet for changing out the main landing gear trunion bolts with stronger steel.  There had been a few failures on arrested landings. That one could be accomplished onboard the ship.
After several inadvertent extensions of the nose landing gear during 4 G pullouts after bomb runs, we had to change out the nose landing gear uplocks and the nose gear housing itself from steel to titanium.  This was a major affair that required teams to be organized, repair sets to be prioritized and could not be done onboard ship. Another major issue we addressed was the failure of the A7E TF-41 engine turbine. It was finally resolved when it was discovered that the turbine shield which was removed during depot level engine maintenence was not replaced properly.  It took some time to discover the source of the problem. In the meantime as, the Navy couldn't afford to down the A7 fleet, the pilots had to run up to full power and hold the brakes for one minute prior to a cat shot or starting the take off roll; not a very encouraging situation for new pilots undergoing training at VA-174. We even experimented with flying the aircraft without the turbine shield. Test pilots flew some of these to failure and then ejected safely.


Milestone Management. Another function of Code 521 was to provide an officer for the COMNAVAIRLANT Aircraft Carrier Overhaul Milestone Management Team.  This team monitored critical path milestones during an aircraft carrier overhaul and briefed the Admiral advised of any problem areas and worked to provide solutions to problems to ensure that the overhaul was completed on time.  This was a complex and challenging procedure.  I learned a great deal during my assignment to one of these teams.  Apparently, I did a good job because I was selected to take on the the modification of the USS Roosevelt to accommodate USMC AV8B Harrier aircraft.

USMC AV8B Harrier squadron workup and deployment on the USS Roosevelt CVA-42.  In June of 1974, the Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral James L. Holloway III, announced that the Roosevelt would work up and deploy with a 16 plane squadron of vertical lift-off and landing AV8B Harriers.
Commander Naval Sea Systems Command and Commander Naval Air Systems Command were tasked to make it happen.  COMNAVAIRLANT was tasked to monitor the critical path milestones involved. I was assigned to monitor the Roosevelt's modifications required to accommodate the AV-8B aircraft. Some of the more challenging problems were to determine what flight deck material requirements including the elevator at the end of the angle deck were required and how to solve radiation hazzards involved with the Harrier's Aden 30mm gun. Unfortunately, some bureaucratic types in the NAVAIR organizations thought he idea foolish and made getting modifications completed on time difficult. Fortunately, CNO had issued a message at the start of the summer that he wanted to be informed imediately of anything or anyone who was getting in the way of completing the modifications by the goal date of September. NAVAIR engineers determined that the steel required be applied to protect Roosevelt's flight deck would be too heavy to move the elevator up and down. My position was that a heavy coating of "non skid" would be sufficient.  It turned out that my position was correct and the Roosevelt deployed with enough non skid to protect the deck open deployment.

The Aden 30 MM Gun Saga. The NAVAIR position was that it was too dangerous to deploy with the Aden 30mm guns as it was no HADHAZ safe (Radiation Hazzards from the ship's radars) on the flight deck.  I was present at a meeting at NAVAIR when this position was presented. It thought it was rediculous to tell the Marines that they couldn't use their Aden 30mm gun; It's most effective armament
.  I held a copy of CNO's message up and asked the names of the people who I should name as standing in the way of deploying the 30mm gun.  Noone stood up. In the end, we came up with away to load the 330mm gun pods withing the hull of the ship and then bring them up to the flight deck as an all up round.  This solution worked although we had to cut a hole in the side of the ship to test fire the gun from below decks.

Athletic Activities

Tennis- I was in pretty good physical shape at the end of my RAF Bracknell tour. My grass court game was in fine form achieved with matches with the RAF Bracknell Tennis Team. My schedule at Airlant provided room for paddle ball or tennis during lunch time and jogging in the evening.  I routinely ran a two mile circuit from our house in Kempsville. Once a week, I ran a 11/2 mile course. My goal was to run the 11/2 miles in under 9 minutes (6 minute miles). I played racquet ball quite a lot with LCDR Chuck Boehmer one of the NAEDO officers in 521. He and his wife Judy were one of our best friends during this tour.


VADM Michaelis

One day, I received a note from Lcdr Kevin Delaney. Aide and Flag Lt for VADM Michaelis, that the Admiral wanted to know if I would be his doubles partner that afternoon.  Of course, I said yes.  VADM Michaelis was a very serious player and I worked hard to be a strong partner for him.  We played often, a once every couple of weeks. I got to know Admiral Michaelis quite well and had the opportunity to meet many of his Navy and civilian friends. One of these Navy friends, VADM Frank Kelso would become Commander Sixth Fleet when I was deployed onboard USS Austin LPD-4 in 1985 and CNO in 1990-1994. Knowing him from the tennis court was very helpful when I got into a bit of a jam when I was CO of the Austin 1in 1985. But, that is a story for another chapter.









The O'day Day Sailor


Following up on our positive experience in sailing during our tour in England, Laura, Heather and I went shopping for a sailboat similar to the one we sailed in off the coast of Cornwall. We found a great deal on a 17ft O'Day day sailor with a red hull similar to the one pictured bove.  It came with a mainsail and jib and a trailor to move it around. It had a small cuddy in the bow area for storage of sails and related gear. We named her Anglophile.



We were able to get a mooring for Anglophile at the marina in Willoughby Bay.  It was well protected from storms and gave us quick access to the area we intended to do most of our sailing; Hampton Roads inside of the bridge.

The tides and currents were tricky in Hampton Roads so we decided to stay inside the bridge so we wouldn't get caught in Chesapeake Bay if the wind died or the current and tide precluded us getting back.



I  did two things to prepare myself for sailing in Hampton Roads.

1. I began attending Power Squadron meetings to learn about boating in the local area.  I took and passed their small boat handling course.

2.  I got myself a copy of Chapman's Piloting & Seamanship and read and reread it thoroughly. Chapmans became an essential reference for me throughout the rest of my Navy career.


The Sylvester Chumly Affair-The girls and I thoroughly enjoyed our sailing ventures in Hampton Roads.  We even learned how to almost surf the Anglophile in waves in the vicinity of the carrier piers. However, I had one sailing experience that was a different matter. On that day, I went sailing with our across the street neighbor, Cdr. Sylevster Chumly.  Sylvester had never been sailing. On a beautiful Saturday afternoon, Sylvester and I loaded up with some sandwiches and cold beer, found the Anglophile and headed out into Hampton Roads. We had lots of wind and  a favorable ebb tide so I decided that it would be nice to sail through the bridge and sail around a bit in the Chesapeake.  About mid afternoon though the winds died and the tide was slack which meant we wouldn't be able to cross back through the bridge to our mooring until we had more wind and a flood tide. So, prepared to stay out there awhile, we broke out the sandwiches and beer until the conditions improved. But they didn't improve. they got worse. By mid afternoon, nimbus clouds began to move into the area indicating stormy weather ahead. About 4:00, I glanced over to the Chesapeake side of Willoughby Spit and saw a"Dirt Devil" swirling vertically. We got our life jackets on and I told Sylvester to lower the main sail. He managed to get the sail about halfway down when we were hit by a strong gust of wind which blew us down; capsized. In the process, Sylvester was thrown clear of the boat about thirty feet away. We were able to gt Anglophile righted, the mainsail lowered and secured and a sea anchor deployed. Then we were in for a wild ride. The winds were about 40-60kts. We were experiencing driving rain and near zero visibility. In about thirty minutes, it was all over. We had been blown well into the Chesapeake in the direction of Yorktown.  But the conditions were good, we had about ten kts of wind from the east and the tide was changing toward a flood tide.  We knew we were in for a long trip but were confident that we could make it before dark. Along the way, we were offered a tow from a returning fisherman. We declined. No self respecting sailor is going to be towed in unless absolutely necessary.
We entered Willoughby Bay about sunset.  Mary had called the Coast Guard to see if they had any news. Apparently, many boats were lost in the storm. The Coast Guard called Mary about 6:00 and reported that they had seen a red hulled small sailboat in the western Chesapeake on its way toward the bridge. Sylvester and I broke out the gin when we got back.



"Rough Seas Make Good Sailors"

This experience of weathering the storm by righting Anglophile and quickly deploying a sea anchor would benefit me later in my Navy career.


A story about a day sail with Laura in Duxbury

In the summer of 1974, we took the Anglophile to Duxbury, Massachusetts to visit Mary's family.  Duxbury is located south of Boston and north of Plymouth.





We were able to anchor the Anglophile just off the coast of Duxbury. We kept the sails and related gear in the cuddy without concern that anyone would steal anything. We felt confident that no one would steal boating gear in a maritime community. Duxbury Bay was a tidal basin. At low tide, the Anglophile would be aground resting on her side. At high tide, there would be four to five feet of water under the centerboard. So, we would either swim out to the boat or take a row boat out. We would have about six hours of sailing time before it was too shallow as the tide ebbed.

One day Laura and I went sailing. It was a breezy day so the sailing was great.
We were practicing coming about somewhere about where the X is indicated on the photo above. On one of the maneuvers, the boom grazed Laura's head knocking her glasses off her head and into the water. They were prescription glasses and rather expensive. I knew we would have to try to find the glasses. So, I took a bearing to a prominent point on the shoreline in the harbor and a second bearing to another prominent location about a ninety degree angle from the first point.

The next day, at low tide, we went to the first point on the shoreline and walked out on the sand in the reverse direction from the first bearing. Noone expected that we would find the glasses but we had to try.  I actually thought that we had chance if the bearings were accurate.  Sure enough, when we arrived at the point where the second bearing line matched up, the glasses were right there on the sand.  The arms of the glasses had remained out from the frame which acted as an anchor so the glasses didn't move much with the tidal changes.


Many lessons learned from sailing Anglophile were helpful later in my navy career when
I was the Executive Officer of USS Saratoga CV-60 and Commanding Officer of USS Austin LPD-4!




1. Safely handling a vessel in bad weather and rough seas

2. Kedging- I was able to save Anglophile from damaging the mast by being swept under the bridge between Hampton Roads and Chesapeake Bay during a strong ebb current.  I struck the sails and deployed my light aluminum Danforth anchor. By kedging against the anchor. I was able to align the day sailor with the current and hold my position safely clear of the bridge until the ebb tide slackened. This was a valuable lesson that had applications as XO of Saratoga and CO Austin which I will describe later in the relevant chapters.

3. The Austin had significant structure above a flight deck that acted like a sail in strong winds. Understanding the sail area relative the center of gravity (center of lift) was very helpful when maneuvering the Austin.



Code 521 Social Life

Our Code 521 group was a close group. We worked well together at the office and enjoyed each others company with our wives socially. RADM Faulders and Captain Bill Finneran  attended most parties with their wives. Our parties were very informal and sometimes surprisingly risque. Once at a costume party, Admiral Faulders wore a Roman type robe with a Gold stripe sash simulating his wide Admiral stripe. Judy Boehmer asked him if he knew what Admirals wore when streaking. He told her, "Whatever they wanted to". Our close social relationships helped keep things "cool" at work when we were under stress.

Chuck and Judy Boehmer were our best friend during our tour at CVOMNAVAIRLANT in Norfolk.




RADM Faulders

RADM Faulders was an exceptional individual. Sometimes staff officers are criticized as not being able to "See the Forrest for the Trees". RADM Faulers was not one of those officers. An example; I was in responsible at CNAL for monitoring the process of cutting up some of our A7Bs so that the manufacturer, LTV, could produce the two seat TA7s by installing a fuselage plug, a new canopy, and related wiring etc. I was also responsible for the configuration control of the two A7B squadrons which were going on their final deployment before transitioning to A7Es.  Their deployment to the eastern Mediterranean meant that they might get involved in a shooting war. As a result, they were scheduled to get a very effective but expensive electronic warfare (EW) upgrade. Their A7Bs were scheduled for the TA7 transition. I discussed the need for this upgrade with RADM Fauders. I mentioned that the EW upgrade was necessary but that I was concerned that it was not very cost effective. His response to me was "Bo, f you were one of those A7B pilots, would you want that upgrade when the SA6 missiles were engaging you?".  We did the EW upgrade and then cut up the A7Bs after deployment!




CNAL 521 Fitness Reports

This is the first fitness report I received as the A7 Class Desk Officer.
As you can see, it is a complete disaster. It was the first 5% fitness report I received in my naval career.




I really don't understand this fitness report. I thought I was doing an excellent job.
Certainly, I don't think I deserved a "pack minus" report.
Perhaps it was because I was a 1300 aviator working with a group primarily AEDOs (Aeronautical Engineering Duty Officers).

The B command grade is especially concerning. I am surprised that Captain Youngblade would sign this without discussing it with me. I should have made a statement (Blocks 80 and 81)


This is the second (last) first fitness report I received as the A7 Class Desk Officer.
I doubt if the command select and promotion boards thought that this one made up for the first one because it was a one of one report?
But anmazingly, I screened for command of a fleet squaron as a LCDR!



This report is certainly much better. But it is a one of one report and doesn't show if I made progress in the group I was compared to in the first report




An Interesting Flight

My flights during the month of December, 1974 changed the direction of my Navy career.  On December 5th, I flew a VA-86 A7C aircraft from NAS Cecil to the west coast for an interview Admiral Maurice F. Weisner, Commander of the Pacific Fleet in Hawaii. Admiral Weisner had flown to San Diego to meet with me and LCDR Brent Bennett about being assigned as his Aide and Flag Lieutenant.



Admiral Weisner was Commander of the Pacific Fleet at the time of our interview.

Brent Bennett was a west coast A7 pilot with combat experience similar to mine. But, he was nuclear qualified.

I was very flattered that I was considered for the job but was not expecting that I would get it.

I enjoyed the interview. How could you not enjoy meeting a WW2 veteran who had started the war as a surface warfare officer, experienced his ship being sunk, then went to flight school in time to return to the war to sink a Japanese destroyer. He had numerous squadron commands and command of several ships including the USS Coral Sea. He had been a Commander of two carrier divisions. My career goal was to be a Carrier Group Commander. To do that, I would have to make Admiral. But, I was in a fix. I didn't want to do the Washington DC thing. I wanted to stay operational. I needed to learn from Admirals who had been operators not politicians how to do that.

I returned o Norfolk to learn that Brent Bennett had won the job.  But I was shocked to learn that I was being interviewed for two jobs. VADM Howard E. Greer was on Admiral Weisner's staff and was due to rotate as VADM Michaelis relief at COMNAVAITLANT in January 1975. Apparently Admiral Weisner gave VADM Greer a thumbs up on me and I was moved from my job as the A7 Class Desk Officer to be VADM Greer's Aide and Flag Lieutenant.



Aide and Flag Lieutenant   
(January 1975-February 1976)


VADM Howard E. Greer
COMNAVAIRLANT
VADM Howard E. Greer was born in Tyler, Texas
November 21st, 1921, Graduated from the US Naval Academy in 1943, In WW2 (1943), VADM Greer served on the USS Princeton during the Battles of Tarawa and the Philippines
He was designated a Naval Aviator in 1945
He served in numerous fighter squadrons.
Commanded VF-64 from 1957-1958
Commanding Officer of USS Hancock  CVA-19
Commander Carrier Group 10 
Commander Sixth Fleet
Commander Naval Air Reserve Force
Commander Carrier Division Three from 1972-1974 overseeing Operations Linebacker One including the mining of Haiphong Harbor in the fall of 1972
COMNAVAIRLANT-
VADM Greer died November 23rd, 2015

LCDR Robert S Smith
Aide and Flag Lt.


I relieved Kevin Delaney as the Admiral's Aide sometime in January, 1975. In addition to me, the office staff consisted of CDR John Pagonelli who was the Flag Secretary, a very sharp Third Class female Yeoman (The Admiral's Yeoman), an E3/E4 who was the Admiral's driver, and another enlisted man who had various duties. The Admiral's speechwriter, CDR John Barry was also a member of the staff but he worked out of another office.


Admiral Greer and his wife Suzanne lived in the Connecticut House which was one of the stately houses on Admirals Row on Dilingham Blvd on the Naval Station. In those days, the Navy authorized flag officers to have "stewards" assigned to help out at the official quarters. The stewards cleaned the house, cooked and served the meals, and worked on the grounds. VADM Greer was very interested in flowers, bushes, and trees so he kept the stewards busy with grounds upgrades and maintenance. Most of the stewards were from the Philippines.
I would regularly stop by and see if Suzane had any problems that I could help her with. I was also expected to be by the admiral's side during all official functions at the house. This was a challenging task as I had to get to know the regular guests well enough to know their "peculiarities".



Admiral Greer and Me

My relationship with Admiral Greer was outstanding. One of the first things he told me was that my role didn't involve stuff like handling bags. The driver or the other enlisted man would take care of that sort of stuff. I would be carrying his briefcase so that he could be return salutes and handshakes etc.  In addition, he knew
that I had been selected to command an A7 squadron following this tour. He tried to make sure that I had time to fly the A7s at Cecil field as often as possible.



Flight Time
 
January 1975-     I flew 4 flights (8.4 flight hours)

January 27th- VC-2 in Norfolk flew me to Cecil in a a TA4
January 27th- I flew a VA-82 A7C from Cecil to NBE
January 30th- I flew that same VA-82 A7C back from NBE to Cecil (Probably a weekend cross country!
January 30th- VA-45 flew me back to Norfolk in a TA4.


I didn't get any flight time in February, March or, April. I was very busy getting to know how to do my responsibilities as the Aide and Flag Lieutenant

May 1975- I flew four flights (12.1 flight hours) 
May 15th- I flew a VA-105 A7E from Oceana to Cecil. 
May 18th- I flew a VA-46 A7E from Cecil to Oceana

May 22nd-  I logged 4 hours (2.0 first pilot time. 2.0 hours co-pilot time) in a VP-10 P3B from NAS Keflavik, Iceland to NAS Rota Spain (see below)

May 29th- I flew a VA-174 A7C on a local flight at from NAS Oceana
       


 My Transition to Being an Aide and Flag Lt was Interesting

When someone entered the office they faced the Admiral's Yeoman's desk. To the left was my desk next to the Admiral's office door.  John Paganelli's desk was off to the right. The driver hung out in another space next to the main office. There was a nice quest chair in front of my desk. There were several other guest chairs next to the wall in front of John Paganeli's desk. John's primary job was to research questions asked by the admiral and coordinate the admiral's schedule with the Admiral's Yeoman and John Barry, the speech writer. My job was to accompany the admiral when he left the building, attend to personal items he asked me to take care of including running interference with his wife Suzanne, and to accompany him on all of his trips to the various COMNAVAIRLANT activities.

VADM Greer was from Tyler Texas. His persona was low key and friendly.  He was exceptionally intelligent but gave the impression that he was just a Texan doing his job. When he was upset about something, he rarely showed his anger. But, I learned to tell when he was "pissed off" because his jaw muscles would tighten. He would not normally come in to the office until after 0800.  Of course, those of us who worked for him would arrive about 0600 to be sure we were prepared for the day. There we some days, we had to learn to be ready for.



Admiral Issac C. Kidd Jr.



Admiral Issac C. Kidd Jr.

CINCLANT- Commander In Chief Atlantic CINCLANTFLT- Commander In Chief Atlantic Fleet
SACLANT- Supreme Allied Commander NATO Atlantic Fleet

(Basically the Gorilla in the Room in the Navy in Norfolk).

His father, Issac C. Kidd Senior was killed on the bridge of the USS Arizona on December 7th, 1941

ADMIRAL Kidd would occasionally stop by to pay a short visit with VADM Greer on his way from the Flag Quarters to his office at CINCLANT/CINKLANTFLT off Hampton Blvd. The only problem was that he would stop by about 0700 before VADM Greer had arrived. It happened often enough that we were prepared for him whenever he came by. We had his coffee, cigarettes, and ash tray ready for him. While he was waiting, he would chat with everyone in the office. He was especially interested in talking with the secretary who was a female Yeoman Third Class Petty Officer. This was as critical period of time when women were beginning to increase in numbers and were being assigned to some fleet units. He occasionally sat in the visitor's chair in front of my desk. I was honored to have a discussion with probably one of the most important flag officer in the Navy at the time. He always seemed pleased to be able to talk with us and didn't seem miffed that VADM Greer wasn't in the office when he showed up. His visits were always a surprise of course, no one told us he was coming.

Another Admiral Issac Kid Story

Remember that I mentioned that I thought Admiral Kidd was one of the most important flag officers in the Navy at the time. The story I'm about to relate is relevant to his reputation as an exceptional operational commander but less skilled as a political Admiral. He was best situated in high level operational command jobs; not for the Washington political arena. 



In this story, Admiral Kidd was the guest speaker at The Army Command and Staff Course in Carlilse, Pennsylvania.



As was the case in most staff college presentations, Admiral KIdd spoke about 45 minutes on some subject deemed appropriate by the staff college curriculum planners and then there was a break of abut 10 or 15 minutes before everyone returned for "Questions". This was always more interesting than the presentation as the students had a chance to ask the presenter questions that often times were controversial in nature. In this case Admiral Kidd was seated center stage in a comfortable arm chair with a table, lamp, cup of coffee and an ash tray. Admiral Kidd was in his element answering one question after another with a direct and honest manner.  Then, one of the students asked Admiral Kidd if he thought the US military didn't have a winning atttude in the Vietnam War; Or asked some question to that affect.  Admiral Kidd was obviously upset at the question, he started squiming in his seat. If he had acigarette, hje probably was puffing at it when sat straight up and gave his answer:  "I don't know about other admirals and generals that but I can assure you that....

"I don't have a white flag in my fucking flag bag"

  I was told that the crowd went wild with a standing ovation!


Not Everything Went Smoothly in my Performance as an Aide and Flag Lt!

When the admiral was scheduled to give a speech at a change of command or similar situation, my job was to accompany him in the back set of the sedan. When we arrived at the location, I was supposed to get out of the sedan and open his door for his "formal appearance" on scene. Then when he was accompanied by the the principle players in the event to the platform, I was supposed to surreptitiously get there fist and put his copy of the speech on the podium. One one occasion, it didn't work out very well!!

When I was getting out of my side of the sedan, my sword got caught in the door jam and I sort of rolled on to the concrete; Admiral Greer's speech flying away in the wind! Embarrassing!  Luckily Admiral Greer had a back-up copy of his speech. He always had a back up copy in case I decided to take another dive to the concrete.


Taking the Boss for an Unexpected Ride in My 1965 VW Bug

One day VADM Greer was scheduled for a meeting of the type commanders; COMNAVSURFLANT, COMNAVAIRLANT, and COMSUBLANT with the Big Boss, Admiral Kidd CINCLANT in his office off of Hampton Blvd. The meeting was scheduled for 1300 (1:00pm). I called for the driver to bring the sedan around at 1200; no answer. The Flag Sec, John Paganelli, gave me the shocking news that the driver had taken the sedan to get it detailed and hadn't returned yet. Oh no ! What to do? I had only one choice.

Admiral, I'm sorry but the sedan isn't available and I will have to take you to the meeting in my personal car. No screaming, no threatening; he just got in to the passenger side and we were off. We were late and I knew I had make it a fast drive the short distance down Hampton Blvd. The protocol was that the senior type commander (COMNVSURFLANT) should arrive first. VADM Greer was senior to COMNAVSUBLANT, so he had to arrive second. I drove as fast as I thought we could get away with and I a ran a couple of red lights until I saw and passed the COMNAVSUBLANT sedan. Then all I had to do was get the COMNAVSURFLANT sedan in my sights and fall in behind. We arrived in the proper order; the COMNAVSURFLANT sedan with the three star flag flying, then the COMNAVAIRLANT 1965 VW bug, followed by the COMNAVSUBLANT sedan with three star flag flying. VADM Greer said nothing during the trip; no tightened jaw muscles, no blank stare. When we arrived, he rolled down his passenger side window and got out of the car. Before going into the building, he turned around with that sparkle in his eyes and said 'Sometime Bo you need to tell me how you determined which red lights you decided to ignore". That was it.! We picked him up in the sedan and nothing more was ever said about his ride in my 1965 VW bug.


My First Major Trip with Admiral Greer


Admiral Greer made two trips to visit the bases that supported Airlant P3 squadrons when on deployment. These bases were In; Keflavik, Iceland; Rota, Spain;
 and Sigonella, Sicily.  The Airlant P3 squadrons were home based in Brunswick, Maine, and Jacksonville, Florida. One of the home based P3 squadrons provided an aircraft and flight crew for these trips. The P3 for this first trip in May, 1975 was provided by VP-10 based in Brunswick. The aircraft picked up our party at NAS Norfolk for the trip.  I don't remember everyone who made up our party besides the Admiral and me; probably a aircraft maintenance officer, a supply and logistics expert, someone representing facilities maintenance, our driver, and possible CDR Barry, the speechwriter.  We also had a friend of the Admirals with us. His first name was Paul and he was from California and was an expert in landscape architecture.



Our first stop was Keflavic, Iceland

We left Norfolk early in the morning in order to land at NAS Keflavik at about noon. My normal role during the flight was to be near the admiral so that I could go get a member of the party that Admiral Greer wanted to talk to or be close enough to give him his second brief case of reading material if he asked for it.  Admiral Greer used the time airborne between stops to get acquainted with the briefing materials provided by the staff for the next stop and get caught up on other reading. I tried to sit opposite the admiral in an adjacent row so he could see me and I could watch him as he processed the reference material. Admiral Greer had the unique ability to get through his briefing materials very quickly but able to retain details from the material.  This was a skill set I wanted to learn from observing him.
 





Keflavik, Iceland is located on a peninsula in farthest part of southwestern Iceland.  The capital city of Iceland, Reykjavik, is located about 30 miles (48 km) by road northeast of Keflavik. It's about a 45 minute drive.




NAS Keflavik airfield and support facilities



In the 1970s and 1980s the Navy had a P3 squadron continuously deployed to Keflavik. I think that the squadrons rotated their deployments every four months or so. The primary mission for the The P3 Orion at that time was anti submarine warfare (ASW). Their primary area of operations when based at Keflavik was the area of the North Atlantic between Iceland and Northern Scotland known as the Iceland/UK Gap. The area was the primary route that Soviet Union's Yankee Class ballistic missile submarines used to transit from their home waters In the Barents Sea through the Norwegian Sea to the North Atlantic Ocean.The P3s also had to cover the gap between Iceland and Greenland in case the Russian SSBNs tried to use that route. Keeping track of these nuclear powered and nuclear tipped ballistic missiles was one of our most critical missions.

The purpose of Admiral Greer's visit was to meet with the Navy Flag Officer onboard NAS Keflavik, RADM Rich who had a background in the P3 Orion and Anti Submarine Warfare. While Admiral Greer was meeting with RADM Rich, the aircraft maintenance, supply, logistics, and facilities people in our party met with their counter parts on the base. It was a short visit taking only a little longer than it took to refuel our P3. The Admiral stopped to talk to the Commanding Officer and a group of pilots and enlisted personnel from the deployed P3 squadron on his way to the aircraft. After only about two hours on the ground in Keflavik, we were "wheels Up" and on our way to Rota.


Next stop was Rota, Spain

May 22nd-  I logged 4 hours (2.0 first pilot time. 2.0 hours co-pilot time) in a VP-10 P3B from NAS Keflavik, Iceland to NAS Rota Spain. Admiral Greer was very Interested in me being able to try my hand at flying whatever aircraft we were using on trips. This was my first opportunity to fly the P3 Orion. I spent most of the flight from after take off to approaching Rota in the cockpit. I had two hours of actually flying the aircraft (First pilot flight time) or at a second set of controls not flying the aircraft (Co-Pilot flight time). Normally the P3 is flown on auto pilot while enroute at altitude. But I wanted to try my hand at manually flying it which I did for about half of my first pilot time; much to the discomfort of the passengers.



Naval Station Rota Spain Ship Docks




VQ-2 EP3



The purpose of Admiral Greer's visit to Rota was to for the staff to meet with their counter parts at the Aircraft Intermediate Maintenance Department and with the supply and logistics folks. There we no P3 squadrons deployed there but the Airlant aircraft carrier coming to relieve another carrier deployed to the Mediterranean normally conducted their turnover at anchor there. Also the VQ-2 squadron flying the EP3 operated out of Rota. Another reason for the trip was for Admiral Greer's fiend Paul to gather information about a fresh water source deficiency problem emerging on the base. After a full day we stayed at the BOQ (Bachelors Officers Quarters) overnight. Military parlance for staying over night is "Remain Over Night (RON).  Admiral Greer and his friend Paul stayed in VIP (very Important Person) rooms.  The rest of us stayed in normal BOQ rooms and the enlisted stayed in the barracks. I don't remember anything special about dinner that night so I feel sure that most of the party had dinner in the Rota Officers Club.  I think we probably turned in early as we were scheduled to leave after breakfast for our flight to NAS Sigonella.


I remember that I sat with Admiral Greer's friend Paul on the flight from Rota to NAS Sigonella.  We discussed Rota's fresh water problem. I was interested because of my Geology background.  Paul and I enjoyed our relationship on this trip and the next one in December.

The on to NAS Sigonella, Sicily


NAS Sigonella is located on the eastern coast of Sicily just south of the active volcano, Mt Etna
 

Sigonella airfield is just south of Mt. Etna


Deployed P3C at NAS Sigonella

The purpose of Admiral Greer's visit to Sigonella was again for the staff to meet with their counter parts at the Aircraft Intermediate Maintenance Department and with the supply and logistics folks while the Admiral spent some time with the NSAS Sigonella Commanding Officer. The Admiral also took some time to talk to the officers and men of the P3 squadron deployed there. Our next stop was to go to Naples where we would RON.


There were three reasons why it was important to include Naples in our itinerary even though there were no Airlant supported bases there.
As a result, we spent a couple of days there.

1. Napes was a major liberty port for aircrft carriers deployed to the Mediterranean Sea. Our group visited many commands in Naples which provided maintenance and logistics support to those carriers and the embarked air wing.
2. It was appropriate for Admiral Greer to pay a call on the US Navy Rear Admiral at the Headquarters of Allied Forces South which was located a the NATO Base outside of Naples.
3. It was appropriate for Admiral Greeer to pay a call on VADM Frederick Turner who was Commander of the Sixth Fleet located north of Naples in Gaeta

Naples Italy


The beautiful port of Naples with Mount Vesuvius in the background

Allied Forces Southern Command


AVSouth Headquarters


AVSouth is located at upper left

Special Missions

I was tasked with some interesting mission assignments in the course of my time as Admiral Greer's Aide and Flag Lieutenant. Just prior to leaving on our trip,
I received a phone call from a Flag Officer on Admiral Kid's staff (CINCLANT/CINCLANTFLT); RADM "Bettle" Forbes.  I had met this admiral on several occasions. He said, he had a very special mission for me.  He had a color 8 X 10 picture of "Humpty Dumpty" and he wanted me to get her to autograph it. He had the picture hand delivered (classified mail of course) and I had it with me in Naples.

Humpty Dumpty


Humpty Dumpty was an famous prostitute who sat on a wall on the road to AFSouth.
(See white arrow on the image to the right above). She reportedly provided her services behind the wall.

Humpty Dumpty was famous not infamous. I don't know if all of her wealth came from her wall but she had lots of money.  She paid for her daughters' schooling at an exclusive private school in Switzerland.

She also gave generous donations to charities for Navy programs such as the USO. 

It was front page news on "Stars and Stripes" when she was killed when crossing the street by a car!

I had not met "Humpty Dumpty" before I found her on her wall. She was very happy to autograph her picture forRADM Forbes.  The framed picture was added to the admiral's plaques and citations on his office wall at CINCLANT/CINCLANTFLT). Admiral Greer gave me a "thumbs up" for a job well done when I reported the completion of my special mission.


Admiral Greer's  Mission Impossible




Delay Sunset!

 
Admiral Greer took delight in assigning me tasks that were difficult to achieve.  He thought it was all part of his responsibility in training me properly if I should ever be fortunately promoted to an admiral myself.  It was a tradition on military bases at that time that when the American flag was raised or lowered on the official base flag pole, a horn would sound and everyone would face the sound and when the appropriate music was played over the base sound system, and salute (if in uniform) or put their hand over their heart (if in civilian dress).  The flag was normally raised at 0800 in the morning and lowered at sunset.

Well, one day the Admiral was scheduled to participate in some sort of ceremony which was to be held in conjunction with the lowering of the base colors at sunset.  It was my job to make sure the Admiral was always on time for his scheduled activities.  On this occasion, we were running late.  I advised him that we were going to be a little late for the lowering of the flag at sunset. His response with a smile and a sparkle in his eye was direct, "Bo, no problem. Delay sunset".
To my amazement, when we arrived about five minutes after sunset, the Flag was still waving at the top of the flag pole.  Although it was past sunset, there was still plenty of light.  Whomever was in charge of the event had made the great decision not to lower the flag until Admiral Greer arrived. We had delayed sunset!



Commander Sixth Fleet- Gaeta, Italy

It was about 105 Km (65 miles) from Naples to Gaeta; about an hour and 45 minute trip by car


Gaeta Harbor

Naples to Gaeta Road Map

Navy Headquaters at Gaeta

Admiral Greer made atrip to Gaeta to pay a cell on Commander Sixth Fleet, VADM Turner Commander, who was senior to him.


From Naples back through Rota, Spain

When we were finished at Naples, we flew back to Rota, Spain before heading back to Norfolk. It was partly to get fuel before heading west and partly to pick up some things at Rota to bring back to Norfolk. 
 
Most of did some shopping on the trip

There were excellent duty free shopping at the Navy Exchanges at Signonella, Naples, and Rota.  Nobody purchased large items; just small items that would make excellent gifts for wives and family members. A coupe of the most popular items were:




Cameos from the Cameo Factory in Naples at the AFSouth Exchange
Lladros manufactured in Valencia at the Exchange in Rota


A big surprise was that at Rota the inside of the P3 was filled with trees and bushes that Admiral Greer's friend Paul had rounded up during the trip. The center isle of the aircraft was virtually full; lots of work for the stewards to spruce up the Admiral's quarters in Norfolk!



More Flight Time

June 1975- I flew seven flights (15.8 flight hours); one TA4 flight with VF-43 and two A7E flights with VA-105, an A7E flight with VA-82,
                   an A7E flight with VA-174, an A7E flight with VA-37, and an A7B with VA-46

July 1975-  My logbook records a P3A flight from Norfolk to Rota (5.0 flight hours; 2.5 first pilot, 2.5 co-pilot) I have no recollection about what this flight was
                  about. There is no return flight recorded

August 1975- I flew five flights (9.5 flight hours); Two TA4 flights with VF-43 (Instrument Check), a TA4 flight with VA-45, and two A7B flights
                    (a cross country RO2N) Buno 154512


The Admiral's VIP Congfigured C-131F


Convair C-131F
The Convair C-131F was 105 ft long with a wingspan of 105ft. It had two Pratt & Whitney R-2800 engines white produced a max speed of 275kts. It had a maximum altitude of 25,000 ft and a range of 1,300 miles. IN the normal transport version, it had a crew of five (pilot, co-pilot, a Flight Engineer, and two flight attendants, and could carry 85 passengers.

The crew of our VIP version had a flight crew of three (Pilot, Co-Pilot, Flight Engineer, and two stewards).  I don't remember the seating capacity of our version but it was probably about 18 to 24.  There was a VIP section for the Admiral and then very comfortable seating for the rest of the passengers. The passenger seating could be adjusted in flight to make four seat booths with a table to play cards.

It had a Galley that could produce hot meals and cold drinks!

We used our VIP C-131F for all our east coast travel. Although it was relatively slow, it's 1,300 mile range meant that we could make any location we wanted to go on a direct flight. It was extremely comfortable and the Admiral liked the time to work on the plane without any external interruption. He encouraged me to fly the aircraft whenever I had the chance.


New Orleans Trip

October 12th 1975-  C-131 Buno 140994; 4.6 hours total flight time (2.3 first pilot, 2.3 co-pilot) Norfolk to New Orleans
October 13th 1975-  C-131 Buno 140994; 4.7 hours total flight time (2.4 first pilot, 2.3 co-pilot, 4.4 hours night time) New Orleans back to Norfolk

This turned out to be one of the most interesting trips I took with the Admiral.

Admiral Greer had been the Chief of the Naval Air Reserve Force Atlantic from 1969 to 1971. The trip was because he was the guest speaker at a Naval Air Reserve Forces Luncheon at noon on at the Fremont Hotel in New Orleans on October 13th. Admiral Greer brought as many people as we could fit in the C-131 for the trip.
We all had rooms at the Fremont.  When we were settled at the hotel, I told  the Admiral that I had never been to New Orleans. Admiral Greer told me that he didn't need me at his speech. He told me to take a few hours off in the afternoon and visit Bourbon Street and be back at the hotel by 1800 (6:00 pm). We were scheduled to fly back to Norfolk that night.

His only request was that he wanted me to play tennis with the wife of one of the other admirals at 11:00.  He told me her name and number. The Fremont had tennis courts on the roof and  Admiral Greer had reserved a court for us.  I always brought my tennis racquets and appropriate clothes for tennis on all our trips.





I had breakfast about mid morning and met my tennis partner at the court at 11:00.  She was very nice and a B+ tennis player.  We had an enjoyable couple of sets and some iced tea afterward.

I was at Bourbon Street by 1400 (2:00). I didn't have much time but had a mid afternoon lunch at one of the fine restaurants in Bourbon Street and did a "walk about" like any other tourist. I was back at the hotel in time to get my luggage from the hotel (we all had late check out arranged) and was at the front of the hotel at 5:45.  Admiral Greer and all our guests were on time and we were back at NAS New Orleans with "wheels in the well" of our C-131 at 2000 (8:00) for a night flight back to Norfolk. In addition to some hours of night flight time in the C-131 (I actually only was in the cockpit for about two hours), I had a great time having a inflight dinner of spaghetti, meat balls, and red wine and a bridge game with three of the guests. The conversation with one of
the guests was the high point of the trip.


The Capture of the German U Boat 505 on June 4th,1944

The Guest's Version of the capture of U Boat 505

The guest was a retired Rear Admiral who began the conversation with this question, "Bo, do you know what a "Tombstone Admiral is"?  I thought I knew but he answered the question for me.  A "Tombstone Admiral" is a Captain who at retirement is promoted ti the rank of Rear Admiral. He didn't tell me why he was retired as a Rear Admiral. Bye the way, the Navy no longer promotes "Tombstone Admirals"!

He wanted to use the "Tombstone Admiral" question as a lead in to what he really wanted to talk about. He wanted to tell me about the story about his version of the capture of U Boat 505 in 1944 toward the end of World War 2 in the Atlantic off the coast of Africa. He made the point that his version was different from the story given by Rear Admiral Dan Gallery written in his book in 1956 twelve years after the capture of the U Boat. The "Tombstone Admiral" said that he had personal knowledge of the capture because he was the Officer of the Deck of the destroyer escort that participated in the capture. He did not specify the name of his destroyer but it may have been the
Edsall Class Destroyer Escort USS Pillsbury DE-133 which according to Wikipedia was the destroyer whose boarding party was the first onboard U-Boat 505.


Edsall Class Destroyer Escort
USS Pillsbury DE-133
Picture from Wikipedia

The "Tombstone Admiral" said that the night before the capture, the officers and other key personnel aboard his destroyer conducted a review about how they would launch a boarding party in the event that the situation presented itself.  The next day, according to the "Tombstone Admiral", they were conducting a "General Quarters Drill" to conduct training for the ship's crew including the boarding party when suddenly a German submarine surfaced nearby. As some of the sub's crew arrived in the conning tower, the destroyer fired its 50 cal guns at the ship including the conning tower.  Several sailors in the conning tower area were hit including the U Boat's Commanding Officer.  In the Tombstone Admiral's version, the submarine's CO was killed and then the remainder of the submarine's crew abandoned the boat by jumping in to the sea. It was a great story. I thoroughly enjoyed listening to it.


Rear Admiral (RADM) Dan Gallery's Version of the Capture of U Boat 505


Dan Gallery Capt USN

"Twenty Million Tons Under the Sea"

RADM Daniel V. Gallery USN Ret.

First Published by H.Regnery Co.
in 1956

I have a paperback edition
published in 2018

ISBN 9781980425304
 


The photograph of Dan Gallery is from Wikipedia.
The following paragraphs are paraphrased from Wikipedia


Rear Admiral Dan Gallery was an early naval aviator who flew sea planes, bombers, and amphibians.  In 1943, he was the Captain of the escort aircraft carrier USS Guadalcanal  CVE-60 and was the Commander of Anti-Submarine Task Group 21.12.  During his this deployment the Task Group sunk U Boat 544.

In March 1944, Captain Gallery left Norfolk again as the CO of the Guadalcanal and Commander of Anti-Submarine Task Group 22.3. During this deployment Captain Gallery decided that the air wing must learn to fly at night because
the German U Boats remained mostly submerged in the daytime because of the increased allied anti-submarine surface ships and air cover.  The German submarines had to come to the surface at night to to clear the air in their boats and charge their batteries.  Captain Gallery discussed this with his pilots and they agreed to give it a try. Guadalcanal began night flying conservatively with night take offs with a full moon and day landings. Eventually his air wing became proficient at night flying and were rewarded by finding U Boat 515 on the surface. After depth charge attacks by Avengers, rocket attacks by Wildcats, and prolonged depth charging by the destroyer escorts, the submarine came to the surface and and the crew abandoned the ship. The deserted U Boat was then hammered by rockets and gunfire before she finally sank. After discussing the attack aboard the Guadalcanal with the captured U-Boat 515 Commanding Officer, Kapitanleutnant Werener Henke a German U Boat ACE, Captain Gallery realized that they had missed a perfect opportunity to capture the unmanned submarine if they hadn't sunk it.

So Captain Gallery met with key officers from the Task Force to define his new plan. He ordered the Commanding Officers of all the ships in the task group to form boarding parties and exercise them so that if another opportunity arose, they had the ability to board and capture the submarine.



TBM Avenger

USS Guadalcanal CVE-60

F4F Wildcat

The photographs above are from Google


RADM Gallery wrote his version of the capture of U Boat 505 twelve years after the event.  He had researched the deck logs of U-505 and the deck logs of all the surface ships engaged in the action. He wanted to understand the mind set of Oberleutnant Harold Lange, the Commanding Officer of U -505 during the events of June 4th. In brief, he understood the "big picture" while the "Tombstone Admiral" saw the events from the prospective of only the his destroyer escort. I will now relate parts of Dan Gallery's version with some excerpts from his book.

The following are quotes from Chapter 16: Cruise to the Cape Verde Islands:

".. Looking back on the sinking of U-515 another idea kept cropping up in my mind... Why not try to capture the next one?" (page 218) "I I "

Next time "I thought that if we brought the sub to bay within gun range we would not klobber it forthwith as we had with U-515. Instead, we would assume he had surfaced for the sole purpose of saving the hides of his crew and intended to scuttle as soon as the crew got overboard. When he surfaced we would therefore cease fire with ammunition that could do serious structural damage to the boat, such as depth charges, torpedoes, and rockets. Instead, we would blast away briskly with small caliber antipersonnel stuff in order to expedite the German's abandon ship drill, keep them away from their guns, and encourage them to get the hell off of that U Boat so that we could put an inspection party aboard"  (page 219)

"I want each ship to organize a boarding party and keep a whale boat ready throughout the rest of the cruise. Also, keep your towline where you can get at it in case we need it.......We organized the parties and were ready when opportunity hammered on our door next time."  (page 220)

"Our night flying experiment on the previous cruise had paid off so well that this time we made the plunge into full scale round the clock operations. On the way to the hunting grounds we checked out all the pilots in our new squadron for night take offs and landings. We again started with a full moon and flew every night, watching it get blacker and blacker as the moon waned. At the end of two weeks the boys were making good landings in the pitch dark. We smashed up some of our airplanes learning how to do this, but didn't hurt any of our people." (pages 220, 221)

" We prowled through our assigned area with the carrier three thousand yards behind a bent screen of five destroyer escorts, using our airplanes to scour the ocean about a hundred miles on each side of our base course and a hundred and sixty miles ahead. " (page 223)

"The only way you can guarantee that there are no U Boats in a large area like that is to every square mile of it under continuous surveillance for about thirty six hours. By that time any sub in the area would be forced to come up and recharge his battery.... Usually the submarine would get early warning of our plane's approach and crash dive.... In such cases the plane circled the spot and reported by radio. Our radar on the ship (Guadalcanal) would pinpoint the circling plane and we would detach three destroyers to proceed there at full speed and start an expanding sonar search from the point of submergence. Soon the submarine would be forced to surface again to get good air and charge the battery. Eventually the destroyers and planes would have a good enough  location of the submerged sub to commence an attack." (page 224 and 225)

"The planes' weapons are 50 caliber machine guns, rockets, depth charges, and torpedoes. The destroyer's are guns of various calibers from 3" down to 50 caliber, torpedoes, depth charges." (page 225)

The following are quotes from Chapter 17: The Capture of the U-505

" Suddenly, during the morning of June 4th, the squawk box on the bridge (Flag bridge of Guadalcanal) blared forth, 'Frenchy to Bluejay- I have a possible sound contact' (Frenchy was the USS Chatelin DE-133 Commanding Officer, Commander Dudley Knox, I was Bluejay"



Edsall Class Destroyer Escort
USS Chatelin DE-149
Picture from Wikipedia

" This was nothing to get excited about yet. We had been getting possible sound contacts for the past months on whales, layers of cold water, and other natural phenomena in the sea. But you always treat a 'possible' as the McCoy until you find out otherwise. 'Left full rudder, I said. 'Engines ahead full speed'. Then grabbing the mike of the 'Talk Between Ships' radio I broadcast, 'BlueJay to Dagwood-take two DEs and assist Frenchy. I'll keep clear." Dagwood was the screen commander (CDR F.S. Hall). The two DEs that CDR Hall took to join the USS Chatelin DE-149 were the Edsall Class destroyer USS Pillsbury DE-133 and the Buckley Class destroyer USS Jenks DE-665. Captain Gallery was assigning CDR Hall as the on scene commander."  Captain Gallery "banged off as couple of 'turkeys' to lend a hand if they were needed, but warned the pilots "Use no big stuff if the sub surfaces-chase the crew overboard with 50 caliber fire" (pages 213 and 232)



Edsall Class Destroyer Escort
USS Pillsbury DE-133
Buckley Class Destroyer Escort
USS Jenks DE-665
Pictures from Wikipedia

"Pillsbury and Jenks raced over to help Chatelin....'Contact evaluated as sub--am starting to attack'.... fired a salvo of twenty hedgehogs.. our two fighter planes (Wildcats) blasted a few bursts of 50 caliber about one hundred yards from where the hedgehogs hit and yelled over the radio, 'Sighted sub--destroyers head for the spot where we are shooting' (The Wildcat pilots had seen the dim shape of a submarine probably trying to go deeper.
(page 232)

"Chatelin fired a spread of twelve six hundred pound depth charges all set to explode shallow... we saw the ocean boil astern of the Chatelin and it felt it quake as as a dozen geysers spouted into the air from the underwater explosions. As the great white plumes were subsiding, Ensign Cadle in one of the circling Wildcats shouted 'You've struck oil Frenchy, the sub is surfacing.... One hundred and fifty miles west of Cape Blanco, French West Africa, the U-505 heaved itself up from the depths and broke the surface seven hundred yards from the Chatelin---- white water pouring off her rusty black sides.
Our quarry was at bay.
  Pillsbuy, Jenks, and Chatelin cut loose with all the guns they had, and for about two minutes 50 caliber slugs and 20 and 40 mm explosive bullets hammered into the conning tower and tore up the ocean around it...As the sub ran in a tight circle to the right, small crouching figures popped out of the conning tower and plunged overboard. While these men were leaping for their lives amid our hail of bullets, I broadcast to the Task Group, 'I want to capture that bastard, if possible'.  After about fifty or so men had gone overboard the sub, Cdr. Hall ordered 'cease firing'-- And the ancient cry, 'Away all Boarding Parties' boomed over modern loud speakers for the first time since 1815." (page 233)

The Pillsbury's party had already scrambled into their motor whale boat .. and took off after the sub which was still circling to the right at five or six knots.
By cutting inside the circle, Pillsbury's motor what boat party drew up alongside the runaway U-505 and leaped from the plunging whale boat to the heaving, slippery sub's deck. On deck was a dead man lying face down with his head alongside the open conning tower hatch, the only man killed in either side of the action." (page 233 and 234)

Note: This man was Hans Fisher, one of the original plank owners of U-505 who had been aboard since commissioning. Perhaps this was the man that the "Tombstone Admiral" thought was Oberleutnant Harald Lange, U-505's Commanding Officer?

"Two men of Pillsbury's boarding party plunged down the conning tower hatch.  They hit the floor plates at the bottom of the ladder ready to fight it out with anyone left aboard. But the sub's crew had fled for their lives and were now in the water  watching the death struggle of their stricken boat. The boarding party had control of the submarine as long as touch the wrong valve or level in the semi darkness of the emergency lights.  They smashed open a couple of lockers in the radio room and found a couple of code books (Enigma code books) and along with charts and operating instructions from Admiral Doenitz (Hitler's head of German submarine operations) passed them up to the deck so that they would have something to show for their efforts in case they lost the boat." (page 24 and 235)

Note: But they didn't loose the boat. A boarding party from the Guadalcanal found and disarmed demolition charges and closed all the valves left open to scuttle the boat, corrected the right turn, and prepared the U-505 for towing. The USS Pillsbury was given the job to take the U-505 in tow but reported that the U-505 was too large for a destroyer escort to tow. Captain Gallery ordered that the Guadalcanal would do the job, which was successful."
(pages 236 and 237)


U-505 alongside starboard side forward of Guadalcanal
Dan Gallery in U-505
conning tower
U-505 undertow by Guadalcanal after capture
Pictures from Wikipedia and Google

If you are interested in WW2 naval history, I enthusiastically recommend you read Dan Gallery's book.  I have only given you essential tidbits of information for you to consider.  Dan Gallery describes the German U-Boat dominance in the Atlantic at the start of the war when there was little allied anti-submarine warfare warfare capability except from land based aircraft and destroyer escorts tasked to accompany convoys of land lease supply vessels. The German U=Boat 'Wolf Packs' operated mostly on the surface at that time. But as the British and Americans began to deploy anti-submarine task groups in 1943 and 1944, the German's lost their advantage.  Dan Gallery descriptions of the tactics and professional careers in U-Boats of the two commanding officers of U-515, Kapitanleutnant Werner Henke and U-505, Oberleutnant Harald Lange and his relationship with each of them after the sinking of U-15 and the capture of U-505 are well worth reading.


More Flight Time

October 13th 1975-  C-131 Buno 141018 (not our normal C-131) ; 3.0 hours total flight time (1.5 first pilot, 1.5 co-pilot, 4.4 hours night time) Norfolk to
                              NAS Bermuda
November 11th 1975- C-131 Buno 140994; 3.5 hours
flight time (1.7 first pilot, 1.8 co-pilot, 1.5 instrument time) Norfolk to NAS Bermuda
November 12th 1975-
C-131 Buno 140994; 3.6 hours flight time (1.8 first pilot, 1.8 co-pilot, 1.2 instrument time) NAS Bermuda back to Norfolk


The Key West Trip


Key West Naval Station


NAS Key West- Boca Chica Airfield


Every once in awhile, we would make a trip to just get out of Norfolk, get a little work done, and take a break for a day or two. One of these trips was to visit NAS Key West which was one of our Airlant bases. We were accompanied on this trip by the RADM who was the Commander Tactical Wings Atlantic (COMTACWINGSLANT which was in the Airlant Chain of Command in charge of the overall coordination, administration, maintenance, and logistics of the carrier based aircraft squadrons when they were home based in their training cycles. COMTACTWINGSLANT had a squadron based at Boca Chica air field which provided adversary aircraft services for Airlant squadrons. The RADM was a fighter pilot. VADM Greer was a fighter pilot. They got along very well. The Rear Admiral (I don't recall his name, was known as Big John). Big John's Aide and Flag Lt was a Lieutenant right out of his first fleet squadron.  We worked together on several occasions and were looking forward to some fun down time at Key West.

One night after we were released by our admirals, the Lt and I visited a bar out in town after dinner.  We were conversing with a couple of ladies at the bar when a couple of the patrons took exception to our moving in on "their territory".  It never got violent but the bar owner called the Naval Station police. The bar owner know that some of those involved were chief petty officers and regular patrons so called the navy rather than the police.  The bar owner had no idea who we were.

The Military Police (MPs) showed up and took us to their headquarters and called the Command Duty Officer (CDO). As soon as the CDO saw our ID cards and found out that we were the two Aide and Flag Lts for the visiting Admirals, he had us transported to the BOQ. The CPOs were released also. Nobody wanted to make a "Fedreal Case" out of this one. It was about 0200 when we got back to the BOQ. We were showered and dressed when we met up with our Admiral at about 0730. As we were walking up a flight of stairs behind our Admirals when "Big John" turned around and asked us if we had a good time last night. He had been briefed of course but I doubt if he told VADM Greer. Then again, he might have. But Admiral Greer never mentioned anything about it!


RADM James "Jig Dog" Ramage
Commander Fleet Air Caribbean
NAVST Roosevelt Roads, Puerto Rico



RADM James "Jig Dog" Ramage


Naval Station Roosevelt Roads, Puerto Rico 


Lt James "Jig Dog" Ramage

One of the best experiences of my Flag Lt tour was getting to meet famous combat pilots who flew in the Pacific during World War II and went on to have successful navy careers. On one of these occasions, VADM Greer and I flew to NAVSTA Roosevent Roads so that he could be the guest speaker for the COMNAVFORCARIB Change of Command.  RADM James "Jig Dog" Ramage was being relieved prior to his retirement after a long and successful navy career.


SBD Dauntless

Navy Cross

F9F Panther

Jig Dog Ramage graduated from the Naval Academy with the class of 1939. He was an SBD Dauntless bomber pilot during World War II in the Pacific theater participating in numerous strikes against Japanese ships. Hss most famous mission was as a bomber section strike leader in the Battle of The Philippine Sea where he was credited with personally putting a Japanese aircraft carrier out of action. He was awarded the Navy Cross for that mission. He was a CAG during the Korean War flying the F9F Panther. During the Vietnam War, he was Commander of Carrier Division Seven commanding flight operations from Yankee Station.

It was a privilege to be a"fly on the wall" in the VIP cottage with VADM Greer and Jig Dog Ramage. They were in their "high collar white uniforms" (without the jackets on). Two Admirals from the World War II Era shirtless, drinking bourbon talking about the "Good old Days. They were not hesitant to discuss what they thought was going well in the Navy and what concerns they had.  Jig Dog had been the subject of the significant media coverage when he placed his Navy Cross medal on the steps of the capital as a protest against the direction that the outgoing CNO, Admiral Zumwalt had taken the Navy. They were looking forward to a change for the better when the new CNO, a naval aviator, James Holloway took charge.



NAS Bermuda






We made two trips to NAS Bermuda while I was the Aide; one for the Change of Command of the new Commanding Officer of NAS Bermuda (October 16th and one a month later for a change of command a P3 squadron, VP 23, that was deployed to NAS Bermuda;
Cdr J.E. Sheehan relieved by Cdr G.R. Alexander (Nov 12th).








My C-131F Flight Time


Convair C-131F

October 15th-C-131F, Buno 141018- 3.0 total plot time (1.5 first pilot, 1.5 co-pilot)
                     NAS Norfolk to NAS Bermuda


November 11th-C131F 140994- 3.5 total flight hours (1.7 first pilot, 1.8 co-pilot)
                        NSAS Norfolk to NAS Bermuda
November 12th-C131F 140994- (3.6 total flight time (1.8 first pilot, 1.8 co-pilot)
                        NAS Bermuda to NAS Norfolk (2.1 night time)




NAS Bermuda is located near Hamilton
NAS Bermuda Airfield



My final trip with Admiral Greer was Rota, Spain
 
My flight Time

December 12th- I logged 6.4 hours (3.2.first pilot time, 3.2 co-pilot time) in a P3C Buno 156516 from from NAS Norfolk to
NAS Rota Spain. Admiral Greer was very Interested in me being able to try my hand at flying whatever aircraft we were using on trips. This was my first opportunity to fly the P3 Orion. I spent most of the flight from after take off to approaching Rota in the cockpit. I had two hours of actually flying the aircraft (First pilot flight time) or at a second set of controls not flying the aircraft (Co-Pilot flight time). Normally the P is flown on auto pilot while enroute at altitude. But I wanted to try my hand at manually flying it which I did for about half of my first pilot time; much to the discomfort of the passengers.

December 20th- I logged 3.6 hours (1.8 first pilot time,1.8 co-pilot time) in the same P3C aircraft on the return trip from Rota.




Naval Station Rota Spain Ship Docks




VQ-2 EP3



January 1976 F
light Time

January 5th- C 131F 141018- 2.7 total flight hours (1.3 first pilot, 1.4 co-pilot) NAS Norfolk to NAS Mayport
                                                                    Note: met Possum and Sarah at the Mayport BOQ Bar

January 6th- C131F 141018- 2.2 total flight hours (1.1 first pilot, 1.1 co-pilot) NAS Mayport to NAS Key West
                              
        Note: got in trouble with CONTACWINGSLANT Aide at a chiefs bar. Police were called. We were released by the Key West Officer of the Day                                             late at night. The next morning COMTACWINGSLANT asked us if we had a good time last night.

January 7th- C131F 141018- 4.1total hours flight hours (2.0 first pilot, 2.1 co-pilot)

January 30th- C131F 148018- 1.1 hours total flight time (.5 first pilot, .6 co-pilot time), Norfolk to Raleigh
January 30th- C131F 141018- 1.1 total flight hours (.6 first pilot and .5 co-pilot time) Raleigh back to Norfolk




February 1976

 I was in the process of completing my tour at COMNAVAIRLANT.

My relief as the Aide and Flag Lt was on board.  I spent the month of February doing the turnover process.


March 1976

March 12th-  VA-46 at Cecil Field had positioned an A7B to NAS Oceana. On March 12th, I flew it on an "round robin" cross country flight- 2.3 hours.



VF-43 at Oceana and VF-45 at Cecil Field used the TA4F Skyhawk to conduct instrument training.
I began my instrument training with VF-43 at Oceana.
Between March 26th and March 28th, I flew six flights.

March 26th- 1.5 total flight hours(.8 first pilot,.7 co-pilot)
                   .5 simulated instruments. Oceana to Cecil
March 26th- 1.5 total flight hours (.7 first pilot,.8 co-pilot)
                   1.3 actual instrument time, Cecil to Memphis
March 26th- 2.1 total flight hours(1.0 first pilot,
                    1.0 co-pilot), 1.0 night time,
                  Memphis to Randolph RON (Remain Over Night)
March 27th- 1.5 total flight time (.8 first pilot, .7 co-pilot)
                   1.0 simulated instruments hours,
                    Randolph to Pensacola
March 27th- 1.5 total flight time (.7 first pilot, .8 co-pilot)
                   1.0 actual instrument time, P'Cola to Cecil
March 28th-1.4 total hours ).7 first pilot, .7 co-pilot
                   .5 simulated instrument time, Cecil to Oceana



April 1976
I flew three flights (in one day) in April while still at COMNAVAIRLANT.
These flight were not part of my instrument requalification program.

April 3rd- A VA-174 A7E, 2.8 flight hours Oceana to Cecil
April 3rd- A VA-45 Ta4F, .5 total flight time (.3 first pilot, .2 co-pilot). The flight was aborted due  to some kind of mechanical problem.
April 3rd- A VA-45 TA4f, 1.2 total flight time (1.2 first pilot) Cecil to Oceana

May 1976

I complete my "official" instrument instrument requalification with VF-43 at Oceana.


May 7- VF-43 TA4F, 1.0 total pilot time (.9 first pilot, .1 co-pilot), .3 actual, .6 simulated (under the hood), 1 TACAN approach, 3 GCAs,  FI-1
May 10th- VA-43 TA4F, 1.6 total ,pilot time (1.5 first pilot, .1 co-pilot) 1.5 simulated (4 GCAs). FI-2
March 27th- VF-43 TA4F, 1.7 total pilot time (1.2 first pilot, .5 co-pilot), 1.2 simulated (1 TACAN approach, 2 GCAs)- Instrument check

I also had one final flight in the C31F to Latrobe, PA with the admiral. I logged flight time only on the first leg of the flight.

May 11th- C131F  140994, 1.6 total flight time (.8 first pilot, .8 co-pilot).3 actual, .6 simulated,  NAS Norfolk to LaTrobe
 
I completed my tour at COMNAVAIRLANT at the end of May.
I was on my way to Cecil to begin my RAG (Replacement Pilot Training) at VA-174 at Cecil Field.




I learned a great deal during my time as Vice Admiral Greer's Aide and Flag Lt. I learned lessons from him that significantly helped me as I moved up the ranks and received orders to positions of increased authority and responsibility. I performed well as the Aide and Flag Lt and enjoyed the experience which included numerous stories other than "Delay Sunset".

However, I experienced a "wild streak" that got me in trouble in my marriage and with Mrs. Greer. I made some bad decisions. I had a brief affair with one of the staff civilians. I had passed the "Officer"portion of my responsbilites but failed the "Gentleman portion" of my responsibilities. Sas a result,
Vice Admiral Greer wrote me a 5% fitness report which pretty much put me out of consideration for selection to flag rank in the future. He did not have me descreened for Command however so it ot affect my orders to VA-15 as XO/CO. But it did affect my non selection as a CAG.




VADM Greer should have given me a grade of B or C in Block 70 (Personal Behavior). I deserved that grade. I made a mistake of dating (affair) with a civilian on the staff.

However, I think he should have called me in and given me a stern warning that my personal behavior (the affair) was "conduct unbecoming of an officer" and I needed to fix it.

His giving me the 5% fitness report was hypocritical. I knew that that the "wife of a fellow flag officer" I played tennis with in New Orleans was the wife of his couterpart, COMNMAVAIRPAC, and that he was having an affair with her. I considered whether I should bring that up so he could reconsider the 5% fitnes report but  decided to leave it unsaid. He had not withdrawn my screen for command and I had a chance to move on. So, I smiled and shook his hand. Making Flag Officer rank ws never my goal in the Navy. But deploying as a Commander of a Battle Group as a Carrier Group was. Unfortunately to be a Carrier Group Commander, you had to make Flag Rank.

It turned out that despite an exceptional finess report from my fleet squadron, that CNAL 5% fitrep resulted in my not being screened as an air wing commander. My friend, "Snuffy Smith" confided in me that I was lucky to get screened for the RAG, VA-174 as a second Commander Command. So, I had a new plan. As I wasn't going to be able to go the Plan A route: CAG, deep draft, CO of a carrier; I would attempt to go the Plab B route; RAG, XO of a carrier, CO of an amphibious ship.


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